Diary of a Seasteader ([info]seasteading) wrote,
@ 2004-07-22 15:15:00
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Pelagic Project, SD Talk
Check out the Pelagic Project. Like us, they have a philosophy based on incrementalism / realism / profitability. They've played with some actual concrete models, and have lots of good links to info on concrete. They have a great timeline demonstrating incrementalism / bootstrapping.

Also, I'm confirmed to talk to the San Diego Futurists on August 6th. GUEST SPEAKER: Patri Friedman
TALK: Seasteading

WHEN: August 6, 2004: 7 - 9:30 pm (1st Friday of every month).

WHERE: Barnes Noble, 10775 Westview Parkway, San Diego, CA 92126.

MORE INFO: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sdfuturists/

TOPIC: "Seasteading"

Patri Friedman's quest for technological solutions to current societal
problems has led him to the concept of creating viable floating ocean
platforms for modern-day "homesteading". Called "seasteads", these
platforms provide an innovative solution to many social problems, as
well as advancing the science of oceaneering.

BIO: Patri Friedman, oceaneering entrerpreneur

Patri Friedman is currently writing a book on the subject of
seasteading. He also pursues computer consulting, high-stakes poker, and
shiftlessness. He has a BS in Mathematics from Harvey Mudd College, an
MS in Computer Science from Stanford, and is working on his MBA at Ellis
College.


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Wayne on Pelagic
[info]patrissimo
2004-07-22 05:13 pm UTC (link)
Alas, they are under the common misconception that the sea is flat as a pancake and have a design that is unlikely to withstand serious wave energy. I don't blame them since my initial design suffered from the same drawback.

The foam concrete is neat, but hardly necessary; concrete at regular density does not cost that much more. It sounds like another example of latching onto a neat technology rather than focusing on the overall goal -- living safely in a potentially hostile environment.
[Wayne Gramlich]

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Wayne on coupling
[info]patrissimo
2004-07-22 05:14 pm UTC (link)
Their coupling mechanism is described at http://pelagic.wavyhill.xsmail.com/coupling.html

Wayne says:

I think they are engaging in wishful thinking. A wave that peaks under one of their joints is going to cause something to give; the forces involved are simply too large to ignore.

Since I am belittling their solution, I think it is reasonable to counter with "so how do WE attach our ever so superior modules together (smirk)?" I believe that we will use walkways (probably covered). The walkways will telescope inside of one another with large springs (rubber bands?) to transfer differences in relative motion from one platform to another without causing something to go break. This allows our platforms to tilt independently and deal with slight differences in ocean current and wind forces. If things get really hairy, we disconnect and try to put some serious distance between the individual seasteads (i.e. miles.)

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[info]magicpacket
2004-07-22 05:54 pm UTC (link)
That's about 2 miles from my apartment, I think I'll come. How long are you going to be in town?

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excellent
[info]patrissimo
2004-07-22 07:13 pm UTC (link)
I'll probably be in town until sometime sunday.1

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